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Christianity vs. Statism 

Taken from unnamed facebook writer. 
The overall scriptural narrative is anti-imperial. The “great” kings like Pharaoh and others are foils to show the true greatness of God. In 1 Samuel 8, the people ask for a human king, and god sees this as a disaster, as being opposed to his own kingship.  At best, governments are a mere concession on God’s part to humans.
As John Howard Yoder points out, even in the temptations of Jesus (Matt. 4:1-11, Luke 4:1-13) indicate a rejection of worldly power.  The third temptation of Christ is “the kingdoms of the world and their splendor,” which Satan can give Jesus if he pays obeisance to Satan. Satan is considered “the Prince [ruler] of this world” and is quite sincere in his offer, and Jesus, who is the messiah, did not brush it off as impossible. But Jesus seems to understand that the kingdoms of this world do belong to Satan, and his followers should not think otherwise. Furthermore, the theme of Babylon as an evil state under the influence of Satan permeates the book of Revelation. In Revelation 18:4, for instance, God exhorts His church to “come out of her [Babylon], my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues.”
The differences between the kingdom of man and the Kingdom of God is fundamental to understand. Indeed, this is the biggest mistake made throughout history. Theologians like John Howard Yoder call this problem “Constantinianism” in which the legitimized church gets entangled with the state, or embraces a “Christendom” that ultimately falls into the pattern of the world rather than be molded by Christ. This is not to say that Jesus is not at all “political,” and only focused on the spiritual (not stuff of life and resources here on earth). Just the opposite. Jesus is a King bringing forth the kingdom of God. So, the kingdom of God was itself, and remained, a thoroughly political concept. Jesus’ death was a thoroughly political event, and the existence and growth of the early church was a matter of community-building, in conflict politically, often enough, with other communities. 
 But Jesus explicitly says that, “My kingdom is not from this world… my kingdom is not from here” (John 18:36). The “rules of the kingdom” as explained in the Sermon on the Mount are unlike any sort of state laws that have ever existed. Furthermore, it is not the job of the Christian to use physical force to bring about his kingdom, but rather to “seek first his kingdom and his righteousness” (Matt. 6:33). The kingdoms of man are founded upon power and violence, but the Kingdom of God is founded upon humility (Matt. 18:4), service (Matt. 20:26), and love (John 13:35). While we cannot help being entangled with/in states in this world, we are reminded once again that “our citizenship is in heaven” (Philippians 3:20).
The difference between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of the world comes down to the kind of power they trust. The kingdoms of the world place their trust in whatever coercive power they can exercise over others. We can think of this kind of power as the power of the “sword” (and that is the language of Romans 13 as well). In contrast, the kingdom of God refuses to use coercive power over people, choosing instead to rely exclusively on whatever power it can exercise under people. This is the transforming power of humble, self-sacrificial, Christlike love. Exercising power under others is about impacting people’s lives by serving them, sacrificing for them, and even be sacrificed by them while refusing to retaliate, as Jesus did. We can think of this kind of power as the power of the cross, for the cross is the purest expression of humble servant-like, self-sacrificial love. 
While the kingdom is in a sort of opposition to the nations, this doesn’t mean kingdom people are always to be law breakers. When laws conflict with the rule of God, of course, they must break them (Ac 5:39). But otherwise they are naturally to go along with them, for not doing so would unnecessarily get in the way of our call to build the kingdom. But we submit to laws not because they have ultimate “authority” over us, but primarily because we submit to God. This brings us to Romans 13 (and Titus 3:1-3, 1 Timothy 2:1-3, and 1 Peter 2:11-17).
Most importantly, Romans 13 must be read in conjunction with the verses that immediately precede it.  In this case, Romans 12:17-21. There are no chapter markers in the original text, and it only makes sense as a single unit. Scholars (again see Yoder for details) see the parallel structure in the language itself as impossible to be coincidentalI. In these passages Paul tells kingdom people they are to love and serve their enemies and never exact vengeance on them. Rather, we are to leave all judgment to God. Then, beginning in Romans 13, Paul tells us one of the ways God exacts vengeance on people: he uses governments. So God uses governments, as he finds them, to do the very thing he has just forbidden kingdom people to do. The passage thus shows not that Christians have a responsibility to participate in government, but that we have an obligation not to participate when it does things we as kingdom people are forbidden to do (like using violence against wrongdoers).
Verse 1 of Romans 13 says that state authorities are instituted by God. Paul’s primary message for Christians, however, is not that states are specially instituted in the same way as the family and church, but rather that the state is not operating outside of the plans of God. In this sense, the state is divinely instituted in the same way that Satan is divinely instituted. God is not surprised when states act the way they do. As noted specifically in the Gospels, the state is understood throughout Scripture as being intimately tied to Satan and his kingdom, and patently opposed to the kingdom of God. The state’s status within God’s ultimate plan does not legitimize the evil the state commits.
Submission to civil government, then, is always qualified. The command is to obey in general, but sometimes we will disobey public policy because of personal and Scriptural conviction. Christians are to obey most policy whenever directly requested to do so, but ensuring active compliance with every public policy is unnecessary. All submission is directed at being expedient and practical toward men and glorifying toward God.
Verses 2-4 indicate that if you irritate the state then you will face wrath, but if you behave in the way the state wants then they will be pleased. At many points, what the state defines as good and evil may be very much opposed to what God defines as good and evil. But what Paul is telling the believers in Rome is that if they do something that the Roman government defines as evil then they will likely be punished for it. We cannot overly abstract this verse from its cultural context and make it an absolute requirement on all cultures at all times. To do so would be to put Christians under a great bondage to bad public policy. There is no compelling reason to think that Paul was deliberately writing about any particular rulers other than those in the first century Roman Empire.
Paul knew full well the power of Nero and the potential harm he could cause to Christians in Rome via the common term of the times for such state power, “the sword.” He does not want believers to be persecuted for anything other than the name of Christ and what he stands for. Paul reminds the Roman Christians, though, that even the dreadful power of the state is not outside the power of God. His message to them is the same as Romans 8:28, that “all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to his purpose.” Even the state or enemies can indeed be a means of sanctification for the Lord’s church.

Verses 5-7 expand upon the reasons for submitting and include practical ways the Roman Christians were to respond to Paul’s message. The reason we must submit to government is to avoid wrath or worrying about being harmed by the state authority. God does not want us to be entangled with the affairs of this world to the point where such involvement detracts from our primary mission. The believers were concerned that the Roman state would find a legal reason to persecute them.  Paul also says to submit to paying taxes for the same reason: avoiding state wrath in order to live for God, and be seen as good by others. 
The fact that Paul needs to stress the need for civil obedience itself tells fairly strongly, if paradoxically, in favor of this basic Christian Anarchist  anti-power-over perspective. It implies that, without some such restraining counsel, some might have heard Paul’s teaching to imply that the church was to become a Christian version of the Jewish zealots, owing allegiance to no one except God and therefore under obligation to rebel violently against human rulers, and to refuse to pay taxes. The paragraph can therefore be seen, not as evidence that Paul would not have been saying anything subversive, but that he had been, and now needed to make clear what this did, and particularly what it did not mean. It did not mean for the church taking up “the sword” themselves.
For Paul to even say that the ruler is answerable to God is itself a Jewish point over against pagan ruler-cult. Caesar did not, normally, owe allegiance to anyone except himself, and perhaps, though at a surface level, the traditional Roman gods. Paul declares, with massive Jewish tradition behind him, that Caesar is in fact responsible to the true God, whether or not he knows it. This is an undermining of pagan totalitarianism, not a reinforcement of it. 
Paul wants the Roman Christians to live appropriately in the tension between present and future. This does not mean, as Paul’s own example bears out, that one must be politically totally compliant or repressed until the final reappearing of Jesus. Preaching and living the gospel must always mean announcing and following Jesus, rather than Caesar, as the true Lord. But the eschatological balance must be kept. The church must live as a sign of the coming complete kingdom of Jesus Christ; but since that kingdom is characterized by peace, love and joy it cannot be inaugurated in the present by chaos, hatred and anger.
Romans 13 is not an abstract, blanket statement that requires submission to all state laws, in all places, for all circumstances, at all times. Nor is it a prescription for what particular form of government is sanctioned by God or for how states should act. The historical context and wording requires us to be careful when making pronouncements about what a Christian’s submission to the state looks like. 
Any Christian obedience to government is for the purpose of expedient peaceful living and bringing no dishonor to the name of Christ. It is part of enemy love as is explicitly clear from Romans 12. But we are not obligated to follow every jot of public policy. Moreover, we are not supposed to follow any law that goes against the law of God. If we are to be persecuted, it should be for the name of Christ and what he stands for, not for refusing to follow some random law when directly threatened by state action. Romans 13 is part of a radical message of an alternative way of living, even among the world at odds with the ways of the church. It is not a ticket to fall into the historical disastrous anti-gospel attempts at Christendom within the Constantinian paradigm.

Why I am not against the Communist Christians

I have a christian anarchist group which is compiled of every kind of anarchist. Naturally with mixed company, people are bound to disagree – some so fervently they exile it altogether.In this group there is maybe 2 or 3 communists who actually post something against capitalism. Out of, oh 2000 anarch-capitalists I’m probably of the handful of who posts something about how great capitalism is…. Yet 2000 people get all riled up about how there’s communists in the group.

I’ve spoken with the communists about their views. Of course, they were all to happy to explain themselves. With consideration and respect I can’t help at disagree of course myself. However I can see very plainly they carry the spirit of christ about as much as the capitalists and therefore they are my brothers/sisters regardless. I am very much a capitalist, But I am first and foremost christian. Here’s the the bottom line of what I know for an absolute fact. Neither type of anarchy, communism or capitalism, will prevail in this world anyway – Scripture guarantees it, It’s almost a pointless argument.

We as Christians are here to wait for christ to rip down all of earth’s kingdoms and establish his millennial kingdom. In the meantime, we are like the Jews wondering in the wilderness. Frankly, what that entails, I’d like to think its a capitalist kingdom, but I’m open to being proven wrong. Until that day we all find out for sure, excuse me if I’m more interested in talking about the gospel.

Yes actually communism can work in millennial kingdom.

Oh sure, communism has failed miserably in times past. However it can not be ignored, scripture promises us each a mansion to be given to us. We will never thirst or hunger – so we can look past the possibility of bread lines. Jesus will be king of the kingdom – in itself makes ‘Christian Anarchism’ an oxymoron. Certainly, communism has failed in a imperfect world, but christ promises us he will make a perfect world.

….Then again, all of this can equally be achieved via capitalism. Yes labor has been exploited even under the name “Free Market”.  Certainly, corporations have and can replace the state – in fact the current president of America views the state as such a corporation that needs to be more efficient. Just as the communists so often contend, there is flaws in capitalism as well, though this is neo-conservativism/liberalism not anarch capitalism…. Again we are in a imperfect world. Capitalism can be perfected in Christ kingdom as it has just as much failed as communism in many regards. There are even things to be doubtful of Ludwig Von Mises’s presented model. The problem both sides know and fear is that, authority always has a way of centralizing itself. Whether socialist or capitalist – this is central to our dilemma.

Who knows – maybe we’ll find out the Anarch-Primitives had it right this whole time and were all wrong…

Since I’m thinking about Moses…

With that said, I’m reminded of something Moses said to the Israelite’s. After he discovered they were worshiping the golden cow. They broke out in argument with each other and immediately began splitting up. Those who wanted to follow the cow, and those who wanted to wonder around with Moses.

Moses shouted to the people who stood by him:

“Lay Them Waste

And they slathered those who wanted to follow the cow….

I look at the members in my Facebook group who want to leave, just because there’s 2 or 3  communists who posted about communism or capitialist said this and that. I can’t help at wonder if this would be the same reaction if Jesus said when he establishes his kingdom “We’re going to be a communist society”.  Yet I should say the same for the communists who get themselves in a uproar over the capitalist out come…. My heart would be grieved if christ gave me just such an order as Moses on that day – that I should have to boot a person out of his kingdom just over economic policy. Though, I don’t think it will come to that.

The last fact is, both of these ideas are man made and founded entirely by unashamed and fervent Athiests. Karl Marx, David Gaeber, Ayn Rand, Ludwig Mises – all of them made it no secrete they despise Christianity. Why were even listening to them is hypocrisy in of it self. Neither capitalist or communist knows what to expect when Christ’s kingdom comes, we can only follow in Christ’s general direction as far as ideals. We ourselves are not going to be the authors of his constitution – and I’m fairly sure he has something entirely different in mind.

Stop your bickering and just promote what you believe, not complain about what you disagree with in the meantime. My fellow capitalists I am ashamed in how sensitive you can be considering your the majority anyway :-/

The Greatest Sinner – a prayer 

“A certain moneylender had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. When they could not pay, he cancelled the debt of both. Now which of them will love him more?”Simon answered, “The one, I suppose, for whom he cancelled the larger debt.” And he said to him,“You have judged rightly.”- Luke 7: 41 – 43

This short parable, is so telling about me. I am the man who owes 500 denarii… 5000 denarii more likely. My sins are so many, and even after I am forgiven still I fight with myself.  

I am proud and boastful – downright arrogant. I burn with lust nearly every night Insufferably. I am slothful and indifferent. I lack manners or concern for others feelings…. I go to God and pray constantly to heal this side me, I hold back as best I can in life. I pray the spirit works in me away these things… Yet I am but a mild improvement after many years…. I am a man, that’s all I can be. 

Yet I’m told by some regardless of my belief in Christ I’m doomed to hellfire. I’m told I do not have the best of fruits of the spirit,  therefore I do not carry it at all – but it only strengthens my faith. While my sins are many – foolishness is thankfully not one of them. 

Thank you God for grace, even for a wretched creature like me. Thank you for not judging me the way people do. Thank you for telling me you will take me as I am and make me someday perfect. I know for certain I can have faith in none other to want me. I am truely humbled, and exalt your mercy. My aligence and my service is in you. If it’s deemed not good enough, I desire your wrath as I truely deserve it.

I know until it’s proven, to no one’s doubt, my name is in the book of life, my flesh will be gone and my spirit can only cling to you. I can do no other, and I’m grateful thats all you ask of me. Amen  
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Easy Believeist 

In all the years I have been a christian. I have maintained that scripture is the only reliable source of information. In my walk, I believed that so much I have only rested my understanding based on what I’ve read in scripture, with very minimal input from the world….
That said, let me tell you what I’ve just discovered about myself that I didn’t know before…. 

I am an Easy Believeist 🙂 

I don’t believe you should say the sinners prayer to be saved. I believe that you should do it because you believe it is the truth. I believe that Jesus did infact live and die then resurrected, for our sins for anyone who believes on him can have eternal life. I also believe the moral law is not a command, it is an instructor. 

My views and my conscience is only bound to the word of God. To say something contrary to scripture, for me is just unthinkable…. I can not to the best of my knowledge even want to lie. If I am in error, I believe I must be corrected and shown indefinitely why I am wrong based on scripture alone. 

I have sat with many easy Believeist like myself and found something interesting. We all have the same story to tell. We all started from some legalistic church or another, whom told us over and over to read the Bible…. Unfortunately for them, we did read the bible and saw very plainly what was wrong with thier theology as we grew in Christ. 

So that’s me and what I’ve discovered about myself. 

To The Gay Christian

The subject of can a gay person even be christian is something I find… shallow. some cases its a deep seeded hatred, more often sheer ignorance of certain truths. I myself am not one to pander, nor have any good thing to say about the LGBT so called ‘community’. Rather my interest is in the individual seeking christ or simply comfort in a world full of mixed political agendas.

Yes of course you can be gay and a christian. More than that, let me give you some meat on the subject so you understand where scripture is coming from on this position…. It’s not so much there’s strings attached, it’s just I myself am a rationalist – and if you are too, I gather you also want something better then a “feel good message”. The best way to confront this issue is just the facts of scripture, in order as scripture explains the issue. Most people don’t really like facts of the matter, but rest assured I won’t spare you from the simple truth. I’ll be using the ESV Bible, though if you prefer KJV is also recommended

I’m not very good at feel good messages, so I wont bother:

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. – Leviticus 18:22

Here we see the law as it is written. What is interesting is the way it’s worded ‘you shalt not lie with a male as with a woman’. Right here at the beginning were not talking about homosexuality parse, more like bisexuality. Ask yourself this, if you are married to a woman, why are you screwing other men? Or for the matter if you are gay guy married to another guy, why are you sleeping with woman?

The word choice for this is I think something we already know about the bible. Relationships are about monogamy. but theres more to this. Look at the dictionary for the definition of abomination:

abomination: a thing that causes disgust or hatred a feeling of hatred.
The bible in general, monogamy aside, talks a great deal about love…. One thing very noticeable about heterosexual marriages is – there’s a special kind of disgust from the wife when she learns her husband cheated on her with men instead of other woman. In this word ‘abomination’ I think we see that point illustrated.
Monogamy in general is about stability in a persons life. In regards to bisexual so called ‘identity’, it’s irrelevant really. You are either with someone or your not. This same law is reiterated later…. But if I may expand the context, as it’s particularly relevant in the case of adultry as the law describes the punishments for adultry:
“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. If a man lies with his father’s wife, he has uncovered his father’s nakedness; both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death; they have committed perversion; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. If a man takes a woman and her mother also, it is depravity; he and they shall be burned with fire, that there may be no depravity among you. If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal…… Leviticus 20: 10-15
So basically what you should get out of this is, if you are a gay christian there will be no sausage parties for you! But the fact remains, the law isnt about homosexuality. It’s about all the ways a person can commit Adultry. That is all, nothing more.

David and Jonathan

This gets brought up a lot, and of course your average legalist will deny it profusely. The thing is, scripture is in no way unclear – these 2 were not just ‘best friends’, and like I said before I don’t know how to make something sound…. ‘better’… so I won’t bother.

1 Samuel 18 – 22 can only be described as a ‘Broke Back Mountain’ style love story. I encourage a gay christian to read it in full for themselves, I’m just going to pick out the nuts and bolts that illustrate the point scripture is conveying.

As soon as he had finished speaking to Saul, the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul. And Saul took him that day and would not let him return to his father’s house. Then Jonathan made a covenant with David, because he loved him as his own soul. And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was on him and gave it to David, and his armor, and even his sword and his bow and his belt. And David went out and was successful wherever Saul sent him, so that Saul set him over the men of war. And this was good in the sight of all the people and also in the sight of Saul’s servants. – 1 Samuel 18: 1-5

Right at the start scripture isnt holding back

“The soul of Jonathon was knit to the soul of David”

Next we see:

“saul wont let him (david) return to his fathers house”

Next

“Jonathon made a covenant with David”

followed by

“Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was on him and gave it to David, and his armor, and even his sword and his bow and his belt”

This is a biblical gay wedding my friend. the real giveaway is “Soul knit to the soul of david” – This is how the bible poetically describes marriage – not just in this case, but in every case people are getting married. The other giveaway is that they made a “Covenant” – the word covenant is a big deal in scripture, and indeed also refers to a marriage agreement. And whats really telling is David is not allowed to return to his fathers house… When 2 people are married, they live with each other. we see all of this very language earlier in genesis

Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. -Genesis 2:24

Keep in mind, this is a royal wedding. of course it’s in front of the entire kingdom. Everyone saw the wedding of David and Jonathon, and considered a good thing at the end. The thing is…. This foundation is very important because it wasnt some deep dark secrete David and Jonathan were an item.

Saul, the king, absolutely hated David…. Traditionally, interpreted because David was so much better at fighting in war then he was. But examine the story a bit more closely almost immediately after the wedding, Saul goes insane. First he tries to kill him, next he convinces David to marry his daughter. Next in chapter 19 he tries to kill him again. Jonathan tries to protect David by sneaking him out of the house. they run away…. and I will just let you read the love story for yourself in 1 Samuel 18 – 22. There is highs and lows and all kinds of drama…. I wasn’t kidding about it being ‘Broke Back Mountain’

The Tragic End.

1 samuel leaves us off at the battle of the Amalekites where King saul, and Jonathan are killed. in the next book, 2 Samuel a messenger comes to David and tells him of their death. In his distress David cries out a whole speach about saul and jonathon to his army ending it with a peculiar thing to say:

I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women. 2 Samuel 1:26

So the thing is. Gay weddings are perfectly scriptural. This thing about David and Jonathan, It’s not a new discussion – I think a lot of modern Christians think so, but it’s been considered common knowledge throughout history. Though in the Renaissance the clergy took it to mean david was clearly just a sinner… Which indeed he was in more ways then just being gay. David was a person who could not control his hormones, It got him in trouble with God on several occasions. So whether he was gay or just promiscuous I couldn’t tell you. I can tell you, that even he broke the law of Moses, and it was his faith in God that was what accounted him to favor with God.

What is this thing Marriage?

The same day Sadducees came to him, who say that there is no resurrection, and they asked him a question, saying, “Teacher, Moses said, ‘If a man dies having no children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother.’ Now there were seven brothers among us. The first married and died, and having no offspring left his wife to his brother. So too the second and third, down to the seventh. After them all, the woman died. In the resurrection, therefore, of the seven, whose wife will she be? For they all had her.”

But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. And as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God: ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.”And when the crowd heard it, they were astonished at his teaching.  – Matthew 22: 23-33

The reason I give you this whole scene is because I want to emphasize context…. This is not a Gay issue, so much as an everybody issue. The Sadducees were questioning the resurrection of the dead, and they assume when someone is married on earth they are also married in heaven after they are dead…. In this case they are asking about a woman who has been married multiple times due to her multiple husbands dieing and she just keeps getting re married…. Well it a fair enough question really.

Jesus tells us it’s no big deal how often we marry on earth. It doesn’t carry over to the next life anyway (Resurrection to be specific)…. Essentially. Also we won’t be getting remarried in the resurrection either, nor will we  procreate. This is a key point on the whole marriage concept – it really is. It’s doubtful we will even have a gender when all is said and done. and yet I would be remissed to ignore the point of marriage as described in scripture.

1 Corinthians 7 talks about all the reasons for marriage and it begins with:

Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. – 1 Corinthians 7: 1-5

Now this whole thing about sex being the point of marriage goes on for about half the chapter actually. The main point of an earthly marriage isn’t so rosey lensed. It’s a means to succumb to our urges without committing sexual immorality. Its a way to keep our drives under control.

So with this expanded view, that’s often ignored, It makes a great deal of sense that when we are resurrected into christ’s kingdom – We will be made perfect, without these urges, and without marriage altogether. It just so happens that in the mean time were stuck with them.

In the case of Homosexuality, if the couple can remain monogamous, in the strictest of scripture. Sure gay people can get married why not?

Marriage is between a man and a woman.

Both of the mentioned scripture defines marriage as man and woman…. yet not really. We saw David and Jonathan married under all the other definitions of marriage. To be honest I think the writer (Paul and Matthew) is speaking in broad general terms to convey a much larger point. This isn’t a law or edict being passed in it’s context its just an explanation of an abstract points. So in that I don’t really see a conflict – however I will leave it to the reader to judge with that said.

So with that said

I have likely pissed everyone off with this run down. Excuse me for just telling it like it actually is according to scripture, to the very best of my knowledge. I could easily add on to this, but 4 controversies is enough for one day. 🙂 However, this article is not for the heterosexual audience. It’s meant for the gay guy out there struggling with his faith and scripture.

It is to you, I can only say I know this world will twist your understanding in all kinds of ways. You are a homosexual in a straight world, and with that there’s all kinds of political agendas out there that distort the facts of scripture. Trust no one, including myself – though I bear no agenda other then truth to the best of my ability. God gave you a brain, you had better use it and judge all things to the best of your ability with discernment. Fact check and reason for yourself, and let the spirit guide you in your soul searching. We are not exactly walking on thin ice here In my opinion, but it is my opinion. Love your spouse as best you can and I hope he/she loves you back. What is most important above all things, is your faith that God will always lead you’re understanding if you let him.

Growing up

One of the reasons I became christian, was a woman in California named Anita Fuentes. I have long since spoken out against her as a false prophet, but I am reminded of the fact she did indeed “Open My Eyes”.
I was talking to another christian whom started their walk in Christ from a very different angle. The United Church of Christ. This person today rejects every thing about this superficial universalist dribble, for many of similar reasons I rejected Anita Fuentes….

We learned better and We grew up.

We started with these people because at the time we needed them. We really didnt know anything, we thought we did and was willing to learn more. As we learned to read the bible for ourselves, as we saw certain inconsistencies, as we learned, we also learned better.

I guarantee that this will happen to all of you. If it doesn’t happen, then you are not growing at all.

So what I think I’m saying is, even bad doctrine can be a stepping stone – but it’s only just that, a stepping stone.

With that in mind…

I was looking over my blog, and some things I wrote about years ago. I realized there’s some things I use to believe that, I don’t really disagree with anymore I just have a more advanced understanding of it now… So perhaps I should delete it right?

Well, I won’t. The reason is, just because I’ve learned better doesn’t mean someone else hasn’t. My own blog and my own word is not scripture – it’s evangelism… It’s me talking to the internet. I myself am no exception to this rule. Someone can always just be using me as a stepping stone, and one day grow up themselves.

The only thing that matters is, salvation is in Christ alone through faith alone. This fact is evident in scripture alone. If anyone says something different, they are just blatantly lieing to you. I have on my blog never said anything different, and I never will on that point.

 

Feet of Iron, Mixed with Clay 

Alot of people are familiar with King Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in the book of Daniel… but it’s plain to see that many havn’t put its interpretation together or really allowed it to sink in….

Any time a person is looking for continuity of ideas. Any time we are debating ideals and searching for a middle ground. Any time a politician says “bipartisanship” or “reach across the aisle” or “come to center”…. We are seeing someone who might understand the symptoms of the battle, but it hasn’t really registered with them. 

All they want is unity, in a world where unity is impossible.

We are in the last kingdom of the earth right now. If you think about the reason for our lack of continuity, it comes from all of us being very self educated people. We are not a monarchy society, rather a democracy. There isn’t a single time in history that every nation across he globe was a democracy. This period is represented well by king Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of kingdoms

….The feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom, but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the soft clay.And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle. As you saw the iron mixed with soft clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage,but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay. Daniel 2:41-43

Another one of Daniel’s prophecy talks about us being very self educated people… Though you may also be aware Jesus said the same thing.

Daniel 12:
But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.

If you find yourself ever trying to agree with someone, or get them to agree with you – remember this has been prophesied. If you are thinking this lack of “Unity” will ultimately lead to destruction on a global scale… Well your absolutely right… That would be the point. Just as Daniel concluded with the kings vision…

And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever,just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure.” – Daniel 2: 44-45

As Christians, what do we do with this?

We ourselves are just as divided as Republicans and Democrats.

The only thing we can ever agree on is that we disagree. I think it’s best we only trust in what the bible says, nothing else man says or even says what the bible  says. That is the source of our only truth, in a chaotic world full of facts. 

Even on this conclusion, I know people will not understand what I’m saying or will profusely disagree. And so, Anyone who has an ear, let them hear me repeat myself. We have no unity, nor will we  until Jesus destroys all the kingdoms of the earth. It is inevitable one way or another. The very best you can do for yourself is pick the side of Jesus, or pick the side of the world. Anything in between these 2 extremes is chaos and confusion.  

Christian Anarchism

The kingdom of god is spiritual…. We have to be good people…. Both of these have a flaw – the very same flaw infact.

The kingdom of God is the people of God, doing our christian duty. You and me are the kingdom. It’s nothing more then a society in of itself. Not an otherworldly detached metaphor. Our duty is “The Great Commission”.

As scripture tells us also, we of ourselves can only sin continuously, any good work we do comes from the spirit. We in the kingdom of God are his vessels to the world, which is why we don’t really need a government or code of conduct to tell us what to do and how to act. We just allow the spirit to work through us, even against some or many of our own inner desires/instincts 😉

You may have noticed this is evident in the way a statist or legalists only feels comfortable in codes of conducts regulated by something other then themselves…. Like a government or even say a religion. They do not have enough faith in the spirit to work in themselves otherwise to remain even reasonably civilized. Even just the word ‘Anarchy’ scares them, from faith the size of a mustard seed. 

It is because of the model presented by Jesus himself, there can never be such a thing as A manmade “Christian Nation”. It is an oxymoron. You are either a christian, or you are with the world. Jesus alone is our only ruler, we can be servants to none other man made thinking. We needn’t look further then the Bible and the dictionary to discover that the rawest and most radical  expression of Christianity is inherently Anarchist.

an·ar·chism

ˈanərˌkizəm/noun belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion



Spiritual Touerettes Syndrome

Sometimes in my thoughts I think of a sentence about god… and in my inner monologue something like this happens. “Jesus is NOT my king”…. Written out, this could not sound more blasphemous, however the word ‘Not’ is in bold and italic for a reason…. I didn’t think that…. I was thinking ‘Jesus is my king’…. It’s kind of like the word ‘not’ is a separate entity that chimed into my inner monologue at just the right time to change the sentence….  It doesn’t even have the same voice as the rest of the sentence. This dysfunction happens to me alot – Even in prayer this sort of spasm happens while im talking to god himself. yet it only seems to happen when i’m thinking of spiritual things or praying… I was eventually so frustrated with it I prayed about it..

I told god: I don’t know why this happens, it’s like Touerettes lord. It doesnt feel like me,  it doesnt even sound like me. do not hold this against me because these things are not what im saying to you. I have no desire to be against you, though I know it sounds like it when these spasms in my mind and prayers are everything against you.. even better please make it stop. If it is a demon then please banish it, remove it please…

So then I fell asleep to the bible on audio book and had a dream:

I was at beautiful white sandy beach, there were no waves and the water was beautiful but eerily clear/calm like glass. I was drinking a margarita out of a coconut when a man came from behind me. This is what he told me:

Everyone has this Touerettes, god knows it isnt you nor does he hold it against you, nor is it a demon as you suppose – rather it is yourself but not really, its your flesh that rejects God. That voice that happens to you is the sin inside of you.This same voice you have observed also causes you to do other sins your not even aware of. It will be taken away someday, though I know it causes you grief, it cant be taken from you just now – but it is good you despise it, so does god – and its why all need Jesus.

so then I woke up and my audio bible was still playing and came to the book of Romans at just about what seems like an appropriate message :

“Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.” – Romans 7:17 – 25

So what I get out of all this experience is, even Paul had this internal psycho dynamics of; “my will vs my sin that’s within” in regards to Christianity. We are wretched and wicked creatures – rotten to our very core. our flesh and blood is inherently evil in more ways then just lust (which is usually when its most apparent).  Even when we are saved, we are only made perfect via technicality – only marginally are we bettering ourselves by carrying some of the holy spirit. Truely the good fruit we produce  is not from us its from the spirit inside us. We ourselves can only sin and wrestle with ourselves as we keep sinning. In a way, we are like broken robots disfunctioning with our hardware. Our minds are short circuiting continuously against our flesh and blood. I myself cant wait for the day God fixes my spiritual touerettes short circuiting among other things 🙂  though I have a feeling I know atleast generally when that day will be 🙂

Maybe I sound crazy at this point. maybe I sound like a prophet…. nonetheless this is what happened to me, and so it is recorded.

Understanding Paganism, From a Former Pagan

Since my conversion to Christianity it’s very noticeable Christians don’t understand a thing about Paganism. Normally this is very noticeable when we’re talking about the old testament… they have a pretty shallow view of the pagans mentioned in scripture, though scripture itself has a lot of depth in what Paganism is.

1. The concept of ‘God’s’

To start the entire concept of ‘god’ is different. It’s very agnostic actually. Pagans don’t worship gods the same way a christian worships God…. In every pagan culture they are seen as higher spirits. They are basically like people with different jobs at different companies that just so happens to be spirits. When a pagan prays/worships these gods it’s in the same way a Catholic friend of mine described how catholics pray/worship Mary. It’s about intercession, not so much about ‘devotion’… in every pagan culture there is one creator God, this God is ussually the oldest God in any given pagan culture – some christian apologetics even believe he is the very same God of Abraham… However, to pagans he is… too high… too powerful to be reached so theres no point in praying to him. The logic of Paganism isn’t too unlike catholicism again in this sense, they think they must intercieve to the saints so that the saints may negotiate with the ‘Most high God’ on their behalf… What is different from catholicism is the gods don’t have to negotiate with this God, things are within their jurisdiction or they can negotiate with other gods outside there jurisdiction. The consensus view is that the ‘Most high God’ just created everything, whilst sits around in the background somewhere not doing anything or talking to anyone… so just don’t bother with him at all.

2. Idol worship.

In my experience there’s 2 types of pagans. Materialist, and Humanist. Materialist view idols as a physical representation of a diety, they rely on physical objects for a lot of things. The Humanist tends to look down on idol worshippers for them it’s about knowledge and hidden mysteries… though selling idols to the Materialist is a means of control… Think of it as the white collar guy controlling the blue collar guy. In scripture this is represented well just about every time a pagan king erects a statue of either a god or himself and demands the people to pray to it.

The white collar pagan says: The little people are too stupid to understand higher things, but their easily controlled via some form of propaganda… aka a statue.

The blue collar pagan says: the king is so great to build this statue for us so we may be able to get rid of our unwanted babies and maybe molech will give me prosperity in return.

So there’s nuance in regard to idol worship… It means different things to different types of pagans. In scripture, very often, you can see the dynamics at play very well between the rulers and the peasants. Alot of Paganism is indeed about control, but it depends on which perspective the character in scripture is coming from.

The king, you may notice never bows to the statue… he actually is the physical  God on earth. By his point of view, by giving the peasants the statue, he’s making political allies with the other god…. It’s kind of like when the government sends a gift to another country, or puts their embassy in another country or arranges a special trade agreement. They are showing friendship and sharing resources… in molech case, the king is sharing the unwanted babies of his country as a trade agreement. This way the king can use molech to fight off his enemies in times of war.

3. Paganism is cruel

Just with the first 2 things mentioned, I gather you didn’t think before just how cruel Paganism actually is. Its particularly cruel when it is a theocracy. It gets even crueler considering how apathetic pagans are to other people. Everything and everyone in pagan cultures is just a tool to be used for someone else’s advantage. Even love itself is ment to be a means to gain from someone else.

This isn’t just a primitive concept our modern societies have long since left behind. We still do these thing all the time everyday across the globe. What Paganism is… It’s the human sinful condition.

Something I think that’s very interesting about Revelation is towards the end an angel crys out – “Fallen, Fallen is that great city Babylon”. It describes babylon as a present tense society even though the scripture is talking about the end times… even though babylon was long gone already, even at the time revelation was written…. We very much still exist in a Babylonian society even to this day – the world hasn’t changed at all, even under christendom.

4. Magic

Magic is the fun part of Paganism… but it’s a broad subject. The very computer your reading this on is by pagan definition “Magic”…. It’s a bit more mundane then a christian might expect…. which… Don’t get me started on our modern society being Babylon again, because it is…

Magic is anything people can use to create something. Whether a hammer, Electricity, spiritual energies, winking, translating the bible… so basically it’s everything people do. Spell casting specifically is viewed as simply using spiritual energies to transmit information towards a desired goal. The modern pagan view is we do this all the time when we post a Facebook status – and indeed, it’s entirely the same concept…. however the bible doesn’t talk about spell casting, not even once is it mentioned.

My christian brothers, scripture talks about “witchcraft”. This is an important difference. Because witch craft isn’t a pagan concept parsè it’s a jewish one. It’s the jewish view on how pagans manipulate and control each other.

Alot of Christians have it their minds spell casting and witch craft are the same thing. There is a reason, but it’s not from scrilture, rather from old catholic inquistors propaganda looking for protestants reading the Bible. Over time this belief witchcraft and spell casting blended together. But it’s origin is from the pagan Catholic Church calling people reading the Bible “pagan manipulators”… that’s the ethomolgy that’s distorted our view on scripture…. so you tell me if theses verses make a bit of a different sense now that you know this… in your mind replace the word “witchcraft” with “control and manipulation of other people” :

For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

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1 Samuel 15:23

For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

2 Kings 9:22

And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?

Micah 5:12

And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers:

Nahum 3:4

Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the wellfavoured harlot, the mistress of witchcrafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witchcrafts.

Galatians 5:20

Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

5. Paganism is convoluted 

In some ways I think it’s a good idea for Christians to study paganism and the concepts therein. At the same time I know full well there is a lot of junk a person would have to sift through before getting to anything worthwhile… There is a lot of abstract concepts, many of which have convoluted foundations… It’s ‘wisdom’ is like a house of cards in many ways. However, of one thing I am sure of, our enemies are well versed in these concepts, and so should we.

Truely I tell you when I said “modern society is babylon”, I really ment it on personal experience from a life of studying Babylonian ideals and just watching the world at work around me. It’s a bit like coming out of the matrix once a person is aware of this… knowing everything you thought you knew is a lie… A rabbit hole I don’t think most Christians are really ready for. If most people knew just how much engulfed we are, and just how much we continuously reject God…. even in a so called “Christian Nation”.

The good news is because Paganism is so convoluted, like a house of cards, it falls very easily. After that terrible day christ will reign. And so, it amounts to nothing to study such things. You would only be fighting temporary battles of an army that’s already lost the war. 😉 our purpose as christians is simply to be here, do our work and wait for our bosses return.