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Something funny about this Idea is, its actually pretty new to me. When I was a kid growing up my pastors and Sunday school teachers always told us one day the whole church will be martyrs. It wasn’t until the internet did I learn Jesus will pull every one off the earth before gods wrath, AND that we will disappear leaving our cloths behind in our place… I had no idea just how prevalent this idea actually was until a few years passed. My question is, what bible are you people reading?
Where in the book does it say ANY of this? How many of you are willing to go to places like China or Syria and tell Christians this apparent aspect of non-persecution? Manly my question is Are you seriously devoted to god enough to give your own life with a belief he wont let evil people execute you?
Another common line of thinking with Pre tribers is Revelation is all of gods wrath and judgement. The truth is, Gods wrath and judgement only comes in after the 2 witnesses in the mid point- Mainly his wrath is at the very end. Most of revelation is not god, It’s the environment the wicked and unrighteous people of the earth create. This includes the seals and the 7 bowls, AND the Antichrists (beast of the Sea and Earth). What god does in the beginning is simply coax things to rush along. He wants this to run its course and fast, What he is doing with the 7 seals and bowls is kick starting certain events to get the wicked and the righteous to react.
The best seal to use as an example of all this, is the 5th seal,
“And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?- Revelation 6:9-19
Not only does this verse tell us Christians will be executed, but it also tells us Christians will be preaching through the duration of the first 4 seals. By preaching the love of god during times of War (1st & 2nd seal), Economic Calamity (3rd Seal), and great Sickness (4th Seal) Christians immediately make them selves a target. The Atheists and other false religions, Do not want to hear it at this point. They also do not want to hear God is punishing them because they turned their back on him… The very mention of it becomes so irritating to them they start getting rid of Christians. However it is more then that, The first 3 seals are clearly not from god parse’.
First Seal and Second Seal– A man going on a conquering rampage is the first seal. The second seal is seems like a reaction to the first. These 2 run together pretty closely, I shouldn’t have to explain to you that if say Russia bombed China- It’s a given China is going to bomb them back. In this case however we see the whole of the earth is first being bombed by 1 guy/country, All diplomatic relations become so intense, countries begin bombing each other in a random frenzy. As to what set of political atmosphere this diplomatic instability would have to take place, we don’t know- we have yet to ever see it, though it’s reminiscent of WW1 and WW2. With all this bombing naturally the next inevitability is Economic Calamity.
Third Seal– Economic calamity often comes from rich people being too greedy- on the 3rd seal we see an example of “The yachts are lifted but the peasants drown”. Ask yourself this, which class of people were getting onto the life boats on Titanic, and which class was gated up in the lower decks of the ship? This isn’t a new concept, we watched it happen in the recent rescission I ask you; with all the hundreds of billions of dollars given to the richest people in America, how many average Americans could have erased most of their debts completely if Obama gave them the money instead?
Fourth Seal– Sickness and poverty often go together- place in all these wars and yes we get an pandemic spreading like wildfire over a 3rd of the earth. Mostly this comes from malnutrition in impoverish conditions, but the filth of living in a war zone also enables it. Again were not seeing gods wrath yet, were seeing an inevitable result of war and poverty.
The wicked evil doers of the world do not want to hear they are doing wrong. With just these first 4 seals, we see it plainly each seal runs off the next. During this time I expect Christians shouting “We can not keep bombing each other” or “Employers must fix wages” and “We must care for the sick”. When you yourself haven’t any money or enough food for yourself it is very hard to say “I want to help the sick”. No the sick are dieing anyway, there’s no hope for them, Christians are wasting valuable resources. Were looking at a time period when the whole of the earth is on “Survivor mode”. You may even expect to see cannibalism due to desperation.
So after the fifth seal, the sixth seal tells us The sun will go dark and the moon will be blood red. What this says to me very plainly Is christians will be on this planet just before the lights go out. The whole earth will be on a blackout, though even here god does not cast his judgement- Instead he waits and lets the cards fall into place on their own.
Skip to Conclusion if Blood moon Theory does not apply to you
Blood Moon Tetrads
Then there is the issue of the Blood Moon tetrad theory. I am so amazed how Bible believing christians so easily listen to pastors John Hagee and Mark Biltz. While most of these same Christians claim to despise false prophets and charismatics, they sit there and rebuke me when I point out this is clearly false. I have actually sat down on NASA’s website Looking for the alleged tetrades this theory proposes, all the way to the 1500’s… Since this theory Claims NASA’s moon records confirm this tetrad, and since I also assume not everyone working for NASA is part of a conspiracy to cover up moon cycles in the 1500’s- The fact is these tetrads do not show up in any records at all- accept for Blitzs book. Can we say false prophet?
Your first clue should have been again, the first 5 seals. Non of these have come to pass yet on such a scale. “Oh but Christians are being persecuted in Syria, China, Boko Haram, XYZ”. This is nothing new, weve always been persecuted. As Christians we were persecuted by the Catholic Church simply for reading a bible… Do you honestly think this is a qualifier for the 5th seal of martyrdom? No the bible is very clear Christians all over will be executed, that includes America and Europe, just as much as the Middle East and where ever. The fact is this, were just not there yet- at best we could say were at the 3rd seal; however even the recession wasn’t quite as bad as economic calamity can get.
Next we also see the interesting aspect of so much attention to just one verse in the Bible. First of all, The moon does’nt turn red- The name “Blood” moon is an old name it also refers to the Harvest moon. Why they called it “Blood” moon has to do with pagan rituals- of which Christians are practicing/observing with this theory. Amazing this same group of Christians are usually the ones who are yelling at people about practicing Halloween and being Luke warm. Yes I’m throwing it down your throat like that, because angelfish actually looks into things- where as many of you take things at face value. The theory relies on 2 specific trains of thought defined below:
Pseudoscience: is a claim, belief or practice which is falsely presented as scientific, but does not adhere to a valid scientific method, lacks supporting scientific evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status. Pseudoscience is often characterized by the use of vague, contradictory, exaggerated or unprovable claims, an over-reliance on confirmation rather than rigorous attempts at refutation, a lack of openness to evaluation by other experts, and a general absence of systematic processes to rationally develop theories.
Pseudohistory is a pejorative term applied to a type of historical revisionism. It purports to be history, and uses ostensibly-scholarly methods and techniques (which in fact depart from standard historiographical conventions), but is inconsistent with established facts or with common sense and often involves sensational claims whose acceptance would significantly require rewriting accepted history. The term may apply to a theory or to a work or works based on that theory. Cryptohistory is a related term, sometimes applied to pseudo-historical publications based on occult notions.The pejorative nature of the term arises from the implication of ignorance, deliberate misrepresentation, carelessness, gullibility or poor scholarship on the part of the (pseudo)historian.
What these 2 definitions amount to there is a word for it; “Sensationalism”
1.(especially in journalism) the use of exciting or shocking stories or language at the expense of accuracy, in order to provoke public interest or excitement.
I can see very plainly if Christians spent less time listening to pastors and more time reading their bible, they would be able to spot a lie very quickly. I also see if Christians spent less time tickling their ear and more time spreading the word of god, As God’s word is told to us, Their probably wouldn’t need to be the 7 seals in revelation. I actually suspect the earth would turn more to Christ and less to man. However as these things go, even the very elect fall prey to deception. Some of you pride yourselves in these theories- I’ve heard it said by many of “Blood Mooners” that “theres only 300 people listening to this youtube video, Narrow is the way”… No, there’s a side more then 300, that was just a crappy Youtube channel that doesn’t get any attention, there’s no truth there- the graphics are just as cheap as the one trying to “Educate” you.. Then there is the “Pre-Tribers” with “Jesus Loves me, he would never hurt me.” Yes it’s true he loves you and wouldnt hurt you, but hes not the one you have to worry about.
The fact is on Bible prophecy I am convinced were there on one bases.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.-2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
The most common and prevailing thing we have now today Is deception. This Is the first sign of the end times- However we are no where near the rest. The reason I know were not there yet is because so many of Christians easily believe anything but the bible itself. Consider to yourself how to learn about things, in your head there is a scale, On one side this is what your being told- on the other side you dont add anything. This is called a one sided perspective. In everything you hear you must listen with a grain of salt and look into the counter argument before establishing it as fact or fiction. This is how you come to a rational argument. In this way of thinking the evidence side of the scale must be equal to the grain of salt of the what you heard side of the scale.Most things you hear are bs anyway, I don’t know why most havn’t learned this. As it is, I pray the church members find wisdom, and the ability to do this with discernment.
See Tides of Deception for more information on how your mind is being spoon feed nonsense.
See The Mark of the Best for more on the book of revelation